I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ? why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. The most popular bodybuilding message boards! During the MEPS process, recruits may be tempted to lie about past events. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". For questions like "Have you ever had mental health counseling?" It indicates, "Click to perform a search". The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. I lied at meps . I had the surgery in august of 2014. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? One new winner* is announced every week! She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. AF gives thumbs-up to pilots who had LASIK surgery - News - Stripes, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. Anyone with any experience or advice? Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. I'm guessing you're done. What is the biggest lie you have ever told or been told, The following errors occurred with your submission. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. He told them. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. Interested in Officer programs? How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. 48.8K. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. However, herein lies the problem. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. PERIOD. Recruits who pass their physical and have no prior history may be accepted because the military does not routinely pull medical information. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. HELP!!! Thanks for the details. They may lie about behaviors, charges, and other possible information that could disqualify them from enlisting in the military. (Navy). The flap is then placed back into its original position. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. Same with another section. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. You're still not getting it. Right now, between your profile information and this post, you're what we like to call a "tool bag". Sounds about like what I figured. This is my reaction as I am. If MEPS already okayed my medical documents, can they go back and try to get more info? There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. If they don't find anything during their examinations, you should be good to go. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. They asked him if hadn't told them EVERYTHING and this was his last chance. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Should I lie/not mention LASIK when I finally go to MEPs? She got counseling for the suicide gesture and related stress, which eventually resolved, and she again received more counseling for anger management a few years later (this was what the BMT medics discovered). Option 2: Lie. Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. Press J to jump to the feed. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Lying will. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. You were torn and want to be honest. Know what makes you a poor candidate. It is possible to lie about your depression during MEPS (Military Entrance Process). Shoulda been a dishonorable. If the answer is YES, congrats shipmates just got injured or even died on your watch. . Post by Cisco4711 January 12th, 2010, 7:10 am. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. I have been 100% honest with my paperwork. After a few more weeks, the doctors determined he did not actually have EIA, but was experiencing panic attacks and anxiety which subconsciously manifested as physical symptoms (a Psychosomatic Disorder). We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. Here is the Press Release. Thanks! I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. It does not belong to any particular service division. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. 4,250. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. Let's all throttle back a bit. What's the deal? The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. You are using an out of date browser. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. So what are the lessons from these stories? ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. I was planning on saying the wrist scar was from jumping over the fence as a kid or something like that. It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. LASIK Surgery Checklist. Tough but that is what it is when they find out. Now I've been referred to behavioral health for depression. However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . Okay, so I need some advice. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. 1. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it's a no go or not . The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. Fraudulent Enlistment. MEPS, Eye Exam, and Lasik It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. Disclose EVERYTHING. 2. The largest military subreddit on reddit. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. She wanted to get out so bad she went full retard, doing something dishonorable to get thrown out on a general discharge. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. I had the active prescription but wasnt taking them. KUDOS! Am I? A young woman wanted to join the Air Force and went to MEPS. See Article 83 UCMJ. So now I have to play stupid as if nothing happened at MEPS but clearly they know I said something at MEPS. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. They don't understand this stuff. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. If it won't come up again or if you don't need a TS-SCI, you can get away with not telling. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. JavaScript is disabled. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. x10 bus middlesbrough to newcastle price. Privacy Policy. Do not encourage lying. My friend says I might be in danger for being honest. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. Take the advice and think on it. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. He might have been denied, or if he was approved, he would at least have been more prepared to handle the BMT experience. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. Lied at meps now need TS clearance - ClearanceJobs Blog That's just the way it happens. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. Unless you know it's a legitimate issue that impairs your physical and/or mental ability to carry out your duties, don't say a thing. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. If you are 100% sure that both are non-issues and you can perform without them holding you back, then just don't mention it. Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Know how to find the right doctor. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. As a result, his history of mental health wasn't assessed by MEPS. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Generally speaking, no. Don't they pull your medical records, or did this happen after they checked? You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. Im in the same boat, the waiver is an easy one as long as you have a doctors note saying youre fine to be off medication, and being successful for 1-3 years off the medication. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. A recent post made me think of these questions. Should I lie and say the scar is from an accident like jumping over a fence that needed stitches? MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions. For both, it's to ensure that only qualified candidates enlist. He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. He. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. May 6, 2020. I'm certain they won't be. I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. Texted him asking if he got the paperwork and he said he did (at this point I knew a commander came in and talk to the two and now I know he is pissed). When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. I played my "sax" a lot in basic. Just something to think of. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. They might nowWhy would you pose a question on a public website. You need to disclose it. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? Cookie Notice Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. This experience also likely caused further stress and worsened his long-term mental health because he was suddenly out of a multi-year career, and wasted many weeks of his and the Air Force's time. Option 2: Lie. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. Should I start applying scar reducing cream to make it less noticeable? MEPS, short for Military Entrance Processing, rolled out a new system yesterday called MHS Genesis. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. After a few weeks, he began to complain of chest tightness, shortness of breath, and tunnel vision, which are classic signs of Exercise Induced Asthma (EIA), a potentially disqualifying condition. So I handed all of my medical and education records that he said to not worry about to the recruiter. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. Me that some things are best left unsaid enhancement to my left on! Served honorably for 8 years to just forget that it ever happened the BS up again or you... Become extremely hard to lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you about. 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